Assuming "whole complex range" means "on grid with the complex" you'll be able to cause a lot of delay and be almost untouchable with some grid fu and a fast ship. Unless complex grids somehow aren't as stretchable as regular grids.

Are the NPCs still going to attack neutrals? They really shouldn't do that.

Without doing more than skim the rest of the thread (sorry) a couple of points:

1: Plex's should never be able to be done solo. Instead of removing NPC EW effects, they should have been balanced to be equally effective for all races. There is far too much solo farming going on currently.

2: Missions should never be able to be solo'd by a frigate (not even a stealth bomber) save for possibly level 1 missions. It is far too easy to evade gate camps in a single frig and does nothing but promote solo farming of the system. Larger ships needing to travel behind enemy lines would change the dynamic (and level of cooperation necessary) by quite a bit.

3: Currently players find themselves in positions where they are threatened or war dec'd for taking enemy systems... by their own fellow militia members... because leaving them "vulnerable" makes farming easier. This situation absolutely must change, even if it involves making NPC kills pay zero loyalty points and upping the rewards for killing opposing militia members. If you want to limit people abusing this, place a limit of one LP payout per day for killing a particular character. You could also consider LP payouts not for taking plexes, but for taking systems.

Gate camping /// ganking npc. that throw up bubbles, webs and scrams.
Also afk miners, stealth bombers should also spawn NPCs that hunt them down..


Will bring balance to 23/7 gate campers or afk smart bombers.


EVERY region should have at-least one if not a few NPC stations to increase more player interactions.


Have different factions npcs come to drone sec and fight each other. over npc stations..

Thsi would bring more mission types null secs and players could side certain faction npc to help them win soverty to get what missions they like

let rouge drones drop metal scraps or ammo atleast

Quite agree, unarmed Incursus are not PVP ships, they are PVE ships tuned to the requirements of the content they are engaged in.

As for Drake comment, good luck with that after the winter nerf-date. Seriously, yes there are PVP ships that can double up, the fact that CCP are making it even easier by removing Ewar once more caving to a minority community in a vain attempt to keep their pet system alive.

Hey CCP if those involved in FW started bleating for free carriers I bet you would start seeding them for LP. One cave after another.

This is the infamous bug that was confirmed to have been fixed (again, and again, and again, and again....)

If this is still happening, its likely a byproduct of the recent changes to plex mechanics, because this is the first time I've heard of it since CCP confirmed it being fixed a few weeks after the May summit.

If you're getting this consistently, send me any details you have about how to reproduce it (is it happening in EVERY plex, all the time, or what?) and I'll make sure they get to Fozzie and the team.

Thanks

Heh.

On an unrelated note. Now that NPC destruction is a requirement for plexing, one of three things needs to happen to prevent an outcry (already building in case you were wondering):
1. Bring spawns closer to button. Currently long range ships are superior as they save several minutes per plex in travel time, but long range ships are severely restricted in the primarily close range fighting that FW is comprised which leads to faggotry and PvE fits.
2. Timers should be reduced across the board to compensate for the upto 50% increase a plexer experiences when killing spawns. Not much required, 10-20% reduction should be enough.
3. Timers should be changed to keep counting but not being able to complete with rats on grid. Serves same purpose in that destruction is mandatory but avoids most of the issues described above as rats close on button/orbiter and last spawn generally comes in a few minutes prior to completion.

They stated that appropriately sized ships will be able to kill rats in plexes. So I think by their own definition they aren't executing this new plex rat feature correctly - yet.